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February 26, 2003

I get tired of this sort of thing.

MSNBC is cancelling the Donahue talk show. Donahue was a fairly liberal, fairly open-minded political debate/interview program that the station had put on in attempt to support its sagging ratings. Despite the fact that Donahue got some of the network's highest ratings, the show is being cancelled.

That's not the part I'm tired of, we'll get there in a minute.

Now, the lefty blogs are all abuzz at a month-old MSNBC study which claimed that Donahue had to go, because it could hurt the network if they were "stigmatized" as anti-war by Donahue's views. And therefore this proves that the media is pro-war, blah blah blah (as if you couldn't tell by simply turning on a television).

But what's our source here? The source of all of this hubub is a column by Rick Ellis, in which he claims that received this report from an "NBC news insider." Rick Ellis writes for AllYourTV.com, a site I have never heard of in my life.

So that's it. The left-wing of the blogosphere is running amuck over an alleged report by an unnamed source mentioned on a column by an unknown writer in an unknown website. Some of my fellow bloggers are even claiming this pile of anonymity is a "smoking gun" proving media bias. But if a White House claim had come out with this hazy type of sourcing, they'd be crucifying it. Sorry folks, if you're going to be picky and skeptical, you have to view every source of information to that kind of critical eye, even the ones that confirm what you already believe.

So that's what I'm tired of, selective skepticism, selective eagerness. For all I know, Rick Ellis is true-blue and his article is 100% pure fact. But until I have some harder evidence, I can't embrace his claims, and I wish some of my compadres would hold out for better support as well.

Posted by Jake at 08:16 PM
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Selective skepticism is extremely annoying. I'm a member of a "collective" in which a member posted about Donahue and supported MSNBCs decision--merely because he's a Republican. That sort of thing has always jerked me the wrong way.

Posted by: amoran at February 26, 2003 09:14 PM

allyourtv.com are belong to us.

okay, i'm really sorry about that.

Posted by: jeremy at February 27, 2003 10:23 AM

I understand the sentiment you've expressed. But, let's suppose the alleged leaked memo about MSNBC wanting to squash anti-war viewpoints is a lie. Even then, the story is still worthy of outrage IF these key facts in the story are correct:

1) Donohue had the top-rated MSNBC show. This statement is testable ... anyone have access to published TV ratings?

2) New hosts being added include Savage, Ventura, and Armey. I know Savage is confirmed, but what of the other two? And are any other hosts being added?

Posted by: Z at February 27, 2003 12:03 PM

Thanks, Jake. This sort of (self-)skepticism is what separates thinkers from chauvinists. I can appreciate this more because I too often want to read only the stories that support my views.

Posted by: Shawn at February 27, 2003 12:42 PM

Z, I agree with you completely. Those key facts you are talking about make a compelling story that certainly imply that MSNBC is intentionally moving in a more pro-war direction. And whether it's true or not, the leaked document explains why they would do this from a economic point of view. Maybe I should've written about that instead. But as a pretty hardcore skeptic, this gullibility I see on the part of many smart writers bothers me.

Posted by: Jake at February 27, 2003 01:16 PM

The biggest problem with this theory is that Chris Matthews is against escalating the war with Iraq and still on the air.

Posted by: micah holmquist at February 27, 2003 01:35 PM

Micah: But there is a big, big difference between a Chris Matthews discussion and a Phil Donohue one. First, the nature of the guests. Second, Phil actually lets the lefty guests complete their sentences. Yes, Chris is expressing doubts about an Iraq war, but he's not ripping the Bushites in any way like they are (were) ripped by some of Donohue's guests.

The other thing is that you can count on Chris Matthews rallying around the flag when the war starts. If Phil's show were still around, you would fully expect anti-war guests to be showcased during the war.

Posted by: Z at February 27, 2003 05:15 PM

Z,

Maybe. It certainly would be easier to portray Donahue as out of touch with the public than Matthews.

Posted by: micah holmquist at February 28, 2003 09:41 AM

I,for one,am so very sorry that we the subscribers to these t.v. networks are at the mercy of their lack of objectivity! I ask you: if Donahue is the #1 show, and brought up the MSNBC ratings, WHY oh WHY even think of cancelling it? I believe, as many do now, that it is FEAR...Phil has the guts to bring out the "other side of the coin" that the conservatives so much want to keep hidden from the very subscribers to this manopoly of a cable system and controlled media! The corporations that pay to keep out the truth will end up paying the price in the end! I pray that someday there will evolve integrity into this mess of a media system again! Phil Donahue will always be one of the greatest men of integrity in my book! Sincerely, SJD

Posted by: sjd at July 28, 2003 08:35 PM

I,for one,am so very sorry that we the subscribers to these t.v. networks are at the mercy of their lack of objectivity! I ask you: if Donahue is the #1 show, and brought up the MSNBC ratings, WHY oh WHY even think of cancelling it? I believe, as many do now, that it is FEAR...Phil has the guts to bring out the "other side of the coin" that the conservatives so much want to keep hidden from the very subscribers to this manopoly of a cable system and controlled media! The corporations that pay to keep out the truth will end up paying the price in the end! I pray that someday there will evolve integrity into this mess of a media system again! Phil Donahue will always be one of the greatest men of integrity in my book! Sincerely, SJD

Posted by: sjd at July 28, 2003 08:35 PM

I,for one,am so very sorry that we the subscribers to these t.v. networks are at the mercy of their lack of objectivity! I ask you: if Donahue is the #1 show, and brought up the MSNBC ratings, WHY oh WHY even think of cancelling it? I believe, as many do now, that it is FEAR...Phil has the guts to bring out the "other side of the coin" that the conservatives so much want to keep hidden from the very subscribers to this manopoly of a cable system and controlled media! The corporations that pay to keep out the truth will end up paying the price in the end! I pray that someday there will evolve integrity into this mess of a media system again! Phil Donahue will always be one of the greatest men of integrity in my book! Sincerely, SJD

Posted by: sjd at July 28, 2003 08:35 PM

I,for one,am so very sorry that we the subscribers to these t.v. networks are at the mercy of their lack of objectivity! I ask you: if Donahue is the #1 show, and brought up the MSNBC ratings, WHY oh WHY even think of cancelling it? I believe, as many do now, that it is FEAR...Phil has the guts to bring out the "other side of the coin" that the conservatives so much want to keep hidden from the very subscribers to this manopoly of a cable system and controlled media! The corporations that pay to keep out the truth will end up paying the price in the end! I pray that someday there will evolve integrity into this mess of a media system again! Phil Donahue will always be one of the greatest men of integrity in my book! Sincerely, SJD

Posted by: sjd at July 28, 2003 08:35 PM
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