....LMB: "Mongerline with Lou Dobbs"....

Those were some of the worst song lyrics I have ever read. I agree when you say that the lyrics are just trying to make the American people feel guilt. Fuck that. I think if he should go on television and support the war, somebody should definitely be able to go on television and protest this war. Gah!

this isn't the most eloquent way to say it, but seriously? those lyrics SUCK!

xoxo, jared

And it took two people to write those lyrics!

I think it's part of the country music cliche. You've got to be folksy and down-home and a reg'lar workin' Joe. Which means cutting out flowery language and metaphor and anything that you wouldn't hear in a regular conversation between two Texans at a truck stop diner. Of course it's a big charade, because you're not exactly a regular working man when you have a million dollar home and a video on CMT. But if you don't play into that persona, you don't get the million dollar home or the video on CMT.

As an aside, Mrs. Lou Dobbs was arrested at New Jersey's Newark International Airport trying to smuggle an unlicensed handgun through the metal detectors as she was going to fly somewhere or other.

This is a violation of many Federal and state laws. (New Jersey has the strictest handgun laws in the country, next to New York City's "Sullivan Law.")

Why haven't we ever heard anything more about this?

I think Jake posted something about Mrs. Dobbs some time ago.

I don't believe you all. This song is not a guilt-trip, it's a reminder of why we are targeting Iraq. It's not changing the subject, it's reminding us what the real subject is. The American people have a real short attention span, and it's about time somebody tried to get our attention back on what this is all about.
"Imagine if CNN had let a fellow perform an anti-war song, and supplied their own footage of carnage in Afghanistan and starving children in Iraq."
Carnage in Afghanistan eh? did you read the article from your own link on "why he supports U.S. military action," and what our troops are doing for the Afghani people? Have we done something to cause the children in Iraq to starve, or might starving children have something to do with their country's Leader, who has slaughtered countless numbers of his own people?
I'm not really into country-western music, I'm not interested in attractive men, only women, and I'm not for bombing the bejeezus out of the "brown people" or anyone else(how biased is that? the brown people?? so you're saying that everyone who is for military action are not only warmongers, but racist too?), except those who would try to take away our freedoms. Replace "brown people" with "terrorists," and then I suppose I'd fit that one.
I think I best fit into the demographic of military members who believe that the freedoms we take for granted every day are not free, and are worth fighting for. Those who will never forget what happened on September 11th, 2001.

Neil.

I have an old friend in the military and I respect his decision to be there, although I wish he had not made it. But hear me out.

"Have we done something to cause the children in Iraq to starve,"

Yes.

"I'm not interested in attractive men, only women,"

No one is calling your sexual orientation into question. Don't worry. :)

"I think I best fit into the demographic of military members who believe that the freedoms we take for granted every day are not free, and are worth fighting for."

Very true. So why are we trying to take the basic rights to life and pursuit of happiness away from civilian Iraqis? Because that is what will happen when you, as part of the shock troops, pelt them with however many thousands of bombs on that first day.
Have fun with that.

"...Those who will never forget what happened on September 11th, 2001."

Yeah. I can't forget either. And you know what? Iraq had NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT. Nothing. Nothing. Nothing.

Do your job and get out, my friend, and save your soul. You sound like a good guy.

Maybe visit Sean Church's blog, http://www.seanchurch.com/blog/ , and see what his take on it is. He was in Desert Storm, I believe.

Adding to Michele's comments, I'd like to remind Neil that, even if we didn't "cause" starvation in Iraq, our illustrious vice president made millions of dollars selling "technologies" to Iraq--after we were at war with the nation. According to the Constitution of the United States, that is treason, worthy of impeachment, just as getting a blowjob apparently is.

Millions of dollars would (magnanimously) feed a lot of people. Cheny was CEO of Halliburton, when it provided "technologies" through subsidiaries to Iraq. A CEO can't make millions of dollars without knowing the clients (or despots) to whom his or her company is selling its product, though he or she can certainly ignore them (thereby making more money, accruing greater power).

If Tricky Dick Cheney's the second in command of the U.S., why should we not question the motivation of our Supreme Court-elected administration? Misunderstanding breeds contempt breeds hatred breeds terrorism. Our administration, by attacking Iraq, is not looking to solve the problem at the root of all this stupidity, although I'm not sure our present administration is capable of doing that.

Now, see the song is obviously biased. Everyone knows that. It is the repition of world wars. Amercia is Germany, Britian is Italy and etc. The song first of all is not supposed to be on there in the fist place because its a news channel for worldy events and a damn 9-11 supporter country hick man is not important, the population of the US that does supports the war are

a) Stupid Immigrants who are afraid of their culture

b) fat cats out for money

c) stupid hypocrite* christains who support republian rule

d)Dumb country hicks

e)people who have lost their culture

f)racist people (note doesn't that black man keep on turing white?!)

and other mindless americianized people who have not yet examined history carefully and realized what crimes America has commited.

*hypocrite christains= people who claimed to be saved and this allows them to do drugs, have sex and date several people, dance, eat pork, be drunk, say profane words... (all stuff that is auctually forbidden in the REAL bible that was not changed by shameful by bastard monarchs of european history) but yet when "touchy" moments arise, they suddenly wear their best clothes and go to chrurch and become holy.

what a depressing country.

Now, see the song is obviously biased. Everyone knows that. It is the repition of world wars. Amercia is Germany, Britian is Italy and etc. The song first of all is not supposed to be on there in the fist place because its a news channel for worldy events and a damn 9-11 supporter country hick man is not important, the population of the US that does supports the war are

a) Stupid Immigrants who are afraid of their culture

b) fat cats out for money

c) stupid hypocrite* christains who support republian rule

d)Dumb country hicks

e)people who have lost their culture

f)racist people (note doesn't that black man keep on turing white?!)

and other mindless americianized people who have not yet examined history carefully and realized what crimes America has commited.

*hypocrite christains= people who claimed to be saved and this allows them to do drugs, have sex and date several people, dance, eat pork, be drunk, say profane words... (all stuff that is auctually forbidden in the REAL bible that was not changed by shameful by bastard monarchs of european history) but yet when "touchy" moments arise, they suddenly wear their best clothes and go to chrurch and become holy.

what a depressing country.

A Message for all history buffs that try to relate the current situation in Iraq to the events of World War II. These "buffs" support a parallel between Saddam's regime and the regime of Hitler. Their argument is that the rest of the world, except the coalition (i.e. US, UK, and some minor countries), has appeased Saddam and that the coalition is actually preventing a major world war from happening. Obviously, this "truth" is very faulty:

1. "Saddam is like Hitler because he is gaining nuclear weapons and threatening the world with his chem. and bio. weapons"

--> Wrong, Hitler started to militarize Germany and the US and European nations did nothing. Saddam is trying to gain weapons and what is the world doing? They are trying to strip him of his weapons through a proper and legitimate way- UN inspections. And the IAEA confirmed that Saddam doesn't posses nuclear weapons.

2. "Saddam is acting like Hitler because he is gaining power and will soon use his weapons to attack and annex neighoring countries."

--> Wrong. When Hitler aggressed and annexed Austria, Chekoslavakia, etc., the US flatly did nothing and the major European nations practiced a policy of appeasement. When Saddam tried to take over a neighboring country (Kuwait), what did the world do? They formed a UN coalition to oust Saddam from Kuwait.

Several other arguments similar to those above are presented by these history people (sadly, some of these people are even educated teachers). As anyone can see from the info presented above, there is no real parallel between Saddam's actions/policies and Hitler's actions/policies. In fact, the only parallel that is apparent to me is that in WWII, the Axis Powers were the aggressors who attacked preemptively. Seem's quite similar to the US's preemptive strike policies.

Note: I am not in support of Saddam. In fact I feel great animosity towards him becuase of what he has done to the people of Iraq. However, this does not mean that the US is correct. Conversely, the US is very wrong and I hope that this event is recored in history as a mistake. It should be a lesson to later generations of the US to not vote for conservative war hawks like Bush who want to control other parts of the world because it is in their "interest" (interest=natural resources for US). Maybe a regime change is more necessary in the US than in Iraq

John S. Dees, you are correct. A very accurate and truthful statement.

Blah blah Blah. I can respect almost anyone's opion if it is well informed and genuine. I am not a republican by any means the way they use religous propaganda to turn the working class of middle america opinionless machines for the gop money hounds at the top. I am disgusted and the same thing going on in the democratic part jsut because mtv shoves there ideas down your throat about how bad our country has been and is so unfair to people of other cultures doesn't mean its true. At any point in history since our country was founded it has always been the model for a free society. Yes slavery is a black mark on our past but we didnt invent it and I would be willing to bet that even as bad as they were treated her it had no comparison to what they would fall pray to elsewhere. Basically that is what is going on in these countries, so don't blame a country singer, try to add implications with the hillbilly cheap shots. If you want to preach about racial exploits don't use the same posting to stereotype a man or industry you no little about. Im not sure but I am pretty certain that he has a masters in chemistry and has been accomplished in the field before he broke in the music industy. To be honest I love the song and there for maybe I'm biast. If I had keep it short then all I have to say is Check you sources because the song was written when we enterd the was in afganistan and was NOT written about Iraq (even though it should have been). Bush IS a liar and a money man, but if we would have gotten rid of that pansy Gore when we should have we wouldn't be in alot of this mess. Democrats will lose this time also because the party has forgotten its roots in labor and the blue collar america and only caters to people who should be voting for Nader anyway. So if your a democrat, and you even think you should be in the green party leave Id rather lose to bush again and vote for someone I believe in than some one who cares about adding bike trails though out farms that have been lost due to problem that arrise form saving animals that should die out naturally anyway. And lose with some one who does ship all our jobs to mexico and china. support you labor union there the backbone of our economy. Have a nice day! p.s. both april 17 posts can blow me :)

Blah blah Blah. I can respect almost anyone's opion if it is well informed and genuine. I am not a republican by any means the way they use religous propaganda to turn the working class of middle america opinionless machines for the gop money hounds at the top. I am disgusted and the same thing going on in the democratic part jsut because mtv shoves there ideas down your throat about how bad our country has been and is so unfair to people of other cultures doesn't mean its true. At any point in history since our country was founded it has always been the model for a free society. Yes slavery is a black mark on our past but we didnt invent it and I would be willing to bet that even as bad as they were treated her it had no comparison to what they would fall pray to elsewhere. Basically that is what is going on in these countries, so don't blame a country singer, try to add implications with the hillbilly cheap shots. If you want to preach about racial exploits don't use the same posting to stereotype a man or industry you no little about. Im not sure but I am pretty certain that he has a masters in chemistry and has been accomplished in the field before he broke in the music industy. To be honest I love the song and there for maybe I'm biast. If I had keep it short then all I have to say is Check you sources because the song was written when we enterd the was in afganistan and was NOT written about Iraq (even though it should have been). Bush IS a liar and a money man, but if we would have gotten rid of that pansy Gore when we should have we wouldn't be in alot of this mess. Democrats will lose this time also because the party has forgotten its roots in labor and the blue collar america and only caters to people who should be voting for Nader anyway. So if your a democrat, and you even think you should be in the green party leave Id rather lose to bush again and vote for someone I believe in than some one who cares about adding bike trails though out farms that have been lost due to problem that arrise form saving animals that should die out naturally anyway. And lose with some one who does ship all our jobs to mexico and china. support you labor union there the backbone of our economy. Have a nice day! p.s. both april 17 posts can blow me :)

I am going to choke the living shit out of the next person who calls me unpatriotic for stating the truth, George Bush screwed up by invading Iraq. There is no victory there. Anybopdy who defines patriotism by his willingness to waste the lives of our soldiers foolishly deserves the worst death possible.
Brian Miller
Stockton California

Or choke the living shit out of the next person who calls me a Commie because i don't support this police action. Communists, if you all will remember, at the Height of the Cold War, was the largest military machine in the world, invading neighboring countries at will and practically enslaving millions of people under Moscow's rule. Communists were anything BUT anti-war...fucking morons!

Or choke the living shit out of the next person who calls me a Commie because i don't support this police action. Communists, if you all will remember, at the Height of the Cold War, was the largest military machine in the world, invading neighboring countries at will and practically enslaving millions of people under Moscow's rule. Communists were anything BUT anti-war...fucking morons!

Well well well. War's "over" and what did we learn? It was an unjust and unnecessary war. Lou Dobbs seems to forget how he defended the war in his pre-war commemtaries. This just shows you how dumb the media is. They were all hyped up during the start of the war, calling the "danger" that Iraq posed an imminent threat. Many people were affected negatively by this inaccurate reporting. I remember seeing a protest against the war on the streets and this one woman becomes enraged at the protestors and starts screaming slurs and calling them unpatriotic. Oh how sad it is when people go bad. If this woman had actually thought carefully about what the protestors were doing instead of being manipulated by the media and white house, she would have realized that the protestors were perhaps the most patriotic people at the time of the war. Why? Because they were fighting against an unjust war and trying to save the lives of our soldiers! Now that the truth is out, no one can deny that they (media and government) made big mistakes (by supporting the war and presenting a false view of the events). This is why I suggest people to stop listening to the BS spewed out by the American media. It is just an alterted form of government propaganda. Don't watch Fox, CNN, etc. Seek out better alternatives (BCC, Independent news, etc.).

True dat brotha! Sad to see how corrupted our society has become. We need change. Revolt aganist the gov. we need a revulution where the whole gov. system needs to be destroyed and started anew. Revoluçion brothers!