....LMB: "Those Who Forget the Past Are Condemned to Fuck Up Iraq"....

Well written. I love the headline, in particular.

Our own American Revolution is a classic lesson in itself.

Those cave fish are smarter than the Bush administration: they probably recognize bullshit when they find it.

Your first point is nothing but an unfounded opinion.

Your second point is funny considering that the 'locals' are not a cohesive group that you can sling together. There's a small minority that are fighting us, not 90% of the country as your fabricated percentiles claim.

You speak of the price of the occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan but you don't speak of the value of safety and freedom which is the resultant.

Is it not important to you that we fight terrorism? Tell me what it is that you would do differently. I hear all this bullshit from people talking about how the Bush Administration is fucking up and making all the wrong decisions. If this is so, why is it that you waste your time comparing his likeness to a cave fish and not coming up with your own idea on how to fight terrorism.

You rip the same administration for being pro-active with the Iraq situation that you rip for not being pro-active pre 9/11. Just what exactly are you looking for here?

You liberals are doing an excellent job of bashing without backing it with alternate plans. That may be entertaining for you all, but it sure as fuck isn't very productive.

Have a good day, and keep up your petty name-calling.

Nathan,
Stereotyping is such a bad idea. If think Jake's site reflects the opinions of 'you liberals' , you are only indicating your overly simplistic worldview: black/white, right/wrong, good/evil, liberal/conservative, democrat/republican. Turn off your damn television and the EIB network and stop being brainwashed and terrified.

Once and for all: IRAQ HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH 9/11 AND BOTH BUSH AND WOLFOWITZ ADMITTED AS MUCH.

http://www.defenselink.mil/transcripts/2003/tr20030801-depsecdef0526.html

You appear to have swallowed the lies unquestioningly. You either are confused or have the bigoted notion that Arabs, Iraqis, Afghanis, etc. are all the same. What the fuck is a 'war on terror'? A nation can only declare war on other nation/states - the British found that out 223 years ago. Al Quaeda is not a place. US administrations like to use military terminology describe every public policy initiative, because they think that makes it understandable and somehow palatable to an under-informed, undereducated public. Let us check out how those other 'wars' are going: War on Drugs, War on Poverty, War on Illiteracy, ad nauseum. What do we have today: Less or more drug use? Less or more poverty? Less or more illiteracy (well, at least now I know what 'No Child Left Behind Means' - no child left with the capacity for critical thinking). Israel has been fighting a 'war on terrorism' for almost its entire existence since 1947. How is that working out? Less or more terrorism?
You assert that we 'liberals' can only criticize and don't have any ideas on how to fight terror. Here's a start: stop bombing countries that never attacked you in the first fucking place. Oh, that 'taking the war to the terrorists' bullshit plays well on Fox news, but this is not a fucking football game. This idiocy (on all sides: US, UK Al Quaeda, bin Laden, whoever) is being played out on the lives and bodies of people who have nothing to do with it: nearly 1000 dead and over 3000 wounded US/UK servicepeople, tens of thousands of dead civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan -while chickenhawks Bush and Cheney sit back and collect the cash. These people don't give a shit about you and their behavior pre and post 9/11 proves it.

Here's another idea: stop sucking the corporate teat of the oil junta that controls your government/food supply/defense industry. Under a republican administration 30 years ago, the 1st 'Arab Oil Embargo' allegedly engineered by OPEC against the US took place, creating short supplies and lines of cars at the gas pumps, angry motorists, shootings, etc - ask your parents if you don't know about it. There was much talk in congress then about 'lessening our dependence on foreign oil imports' and switching to alternative, clean and renewable energy sources. 30 fucking years later, the US is standing like a junkie on the corner, waiting for OPEC to cut the price of barrels of crude because it's now over $2 a gallon at the pump. 30 years later, more dependent than ever on oil. Where's that 'entrepreneurial spirit of the American people'?

All the food you eat is harvested and transported from farm to supermarket to home via oil. The entire US defense runs on oil. We have been/are being blackmailed by the private corporations that control that resource, and instead of having a leader mobilize an all-out, NASA-type initiative to get off the stuff once and for all, we as a people and nation have succumbed to this corrupt administration, their lobbyists and bought-and-paid for politicians who have been gutting fuel efficiency standards, slashing public funds for alternative fuels, and pretending that the supply is infinite. So, a 'liberal' idea might look like this: NO OIL IMPORTS BY THE YEAR 2015. We did it for a moon landing (with the technology from 45 years ago, might I add) and if you are so gung-ho America, you know that we can do this as well. Get off the fucking juice, junkies. None. Zippo. Let them have their fucking desert sand and oil. No more US soldiers dead for Halliburton/Unocal/Bechtel's profits.

There are vast areas of the country that are nothing but desert: no water flows and no food is grown there. Much of it was used for nuclear bomb testing. That entire region should be coated with high-tech solar collectors by now. And yes they do exist and they do generate electric power. Internal combustion engines must be converted to increased fuel efficiency and hybrid/hydrogen technology. Think of the jobs that would be created and the spin-off industries, etc. This is at least as possible as fighting an unwinnable, unending war in foreign lands for a resource that, ultimately, will not be there. And if you are any kind of patriot, you will concede these facts.

Unless you are a Bechtel/Haliburton/Unocal shareholder, Cheney and Bush do not represent you and are not interested in what is best for you. These are not the opinions of some 'liberal' - these are facts. Do some research. Read more. Richard A. Clark and Paul O'Neil are not 'liberals', they were Bush's own appointees to his own cabinet. John Dean and Kevin Phillips worked in the Nixon and Reagan administrations. Ashcroft, Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld, Bush - these guys are serious facists with serious plans for global domination and hegemony. WAKE THE FUCK UP!!

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