....LMB: "Up in the Air"....

Yes man,

my english is not as good as it should be, after learning many years in school. But I think, I understand your text:

you are so right! I´m from Germany and I cannot understand most of the Americans!

Will you never awake from this nightmare, which I call Mr.Bush or Ronald Reagan ?

But I also critisize our press, which are mostly under your control ! And I am very sad about the Britains, who will never learn to solve the conflict, wether they belong to Europe or the USA !

Thanx for your columne !

Many greetings from Germany

Martin

Stupid bunch of ^&($( yankee ^$@^)@$!

No offense Jake but here in Europe we're a wee bit pissed off right now.

If you're thinking of fleeing the Empire you're welcome in Europe.:)

You know, I've never seen 58.1 million idiots in one place. I've said it before, all you folks there who voted for Kerry/Edwards are welcome to come on up to Canada. We have tons (tonnes, if you prefer) of room and great beer. Our doors are open, but make sure you're wearing a Kerry pin at the border.

i'm sure glad i live close to the canadian border. why is it that in america, you're somehow considered more american if you're ignorant, and less american if you're intelligent and educated? you know bin laden is so doing the happy dance right now... 4 more years of easy recruiting and sucking the US economy dry.

Greets from the Big Switz!
It's cold as hell her! But I'm out on the beach in my swimsuit, and my thermal pants, and parka. The food is good here, cheap chocolate. But if you drop your bread in the fondue, it is custom to buy wine for the entire table, so everyone wants to sit next to the foreigner. Well, everyone here hates Bush, and there is a lot of support for the Third Party Canidates, so I'm right at home!

I'm a former Peace Corps Volunteer. I just got finished typing up an e-mail message to send to my (Muslim) host family in Bangladesh, trying to explain why a majority of voting Americans thinks killing Muslims for no reason is just fine. I couldn't do it. I don't understand it. Where in Europe are Americans welcome right now??? I want the hell out.

Try telling your host family that America is comprised of three people, Liberals, Moderates, and Dumbasses, tell them you are a Liberal, and maybe not even an American anymore.

I personally relish the idea of being politicly active in a foreign country, espescially one with more than two parties.

As for somewhere to go... How 'Bout Britain? Spain? Maybe Germany? Don't forget Poland!

Don't come to Britain just yet. Tony Blair is so deep in Bush's pockets/arse that it's hard to seperate them.

We do have the slight saving grace that we are close to having 3 party politics, and our Liberals are actually Liberals. Although to be fair the Conservatives and Labour are so similar these days it really wouldn't matter which one is in power (Just like the Republicans and Democrats).

Okay, I was thinking more of Switzerland anyway...

"But no matter who wins, this election makes one thing certain: tens of millions of Americans are stupid, stupid fuckers."

You have never been so right.

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"Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives."-John Stuart Mill

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe."-Albert Einstein

The two most abundant elements in the time-space continuum: Hydrogen, and stupidity.

I'm just utterly, mind-numbingly depressed. And have decided to repost (illegally, probably) The Handmaid's Tale in my own journal, page by page, in order for people to read about a possible future we face with a GOP government.

I used to think that it wouldn't even be anything but dystopian fiction -- but i dunno. I'm worried. Scared, worried and really fucking pissed off at this "majority" of stupid people in this country. And sadly, it even includes members of my own family. ugh.

WHAT THE FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This shit feels so hopeless not just because we will have to endure Bush for 4 more fucking years, but because stupidity seems to run like a fucking disease in the mid west. I mean what the fucks were they thinking? No really.

The answer is: Nothing. I kid you not, they're all slaves to Rush Limbaugh, George Bush, and the Bible, no independant thought.

I don't think I could personalize this defeat any more than I have. I am in the middle of Ohio. While our urban counties went blue, the bible thumpers and intolerant bigots (who came out in droves to vote in a state amendment to "protect marriage") went pure red. The ignorance is unbelievable. I am deeply sorry for what is to come. I can speak for the Kerry supporters in Ohio when I say, we tried really really hard.

I don't see how making marriage a club exclusive protects it, unfortunatley, I live in one of the eleven states(Oregon) that passed this law.
This link is interesting, I think it has grounds to form a 'Comittie for a Secular Nation'

http://earlyamerica.com/review/summer97/secular.html

Don't be too glum, my friends. It may not take four years to hound this traitor out of office. It might even be fun to watch - from another country ;-)

If possible, not from another country, maybe another planet, I'd really like to book a room on the I.S.S.

Besides, as honest, caring Liberals(a triple redundancy there) in a country where the Senate, House of Reps., and the Presidency are mainly Republican(i am speaking to the Americans here, I know some of you are not Americans), and soon most of the justices will be as well, we have two choices. The first is to call this nation lost, flee to Canada, or Britain, or wherever the fuck you go to hide. Or the other, get our derriers out of bed, oil, grease and gas up the ol' ass kicking machine, and get ready for a long, hard slog to get our country back.

I suspect Bush still won by default, if you take those who are fed up and refused to vote for either candidate.

Kerry would have killed Iraqis and Muslims anyway. I guess some of you missed the part where he criticized Bush for not being tough enough in Iraq. It's just that he would have put a liberal facade on the whole thing.

But take heart, the Democrats will likely regain power in four years when everyone tires of Republicans. Then some of you will breathe easier while similar foreign and domestic policies are pursued. It's a predictable pattern.

As much as I'm sick of the racist patriot Bush supporters, I'm equally as fed up with leftist idiots who only whine when Republicans commit their atrocities while ignoring what the Democrats did. After all, the Bush administration is doing what it's doing thanks to Clinton and the Dems paving the way for Bush's reactionary agenda. The right-wingers aren't the only ones ignorant of history.

The lesson here is that there is no salvation in electoral politics or the big-business parties.

I'll have you know that I'm with Greenpeace, and we are the original anti-big business party. But if Bush is not stopped, his damage to the Nation will be irreprable, so I voted for Kerry, that way I could have spread the Third Party sentiment in peace.

Yeah, Kerry would have kept us in there, but he would have fought a smarter, less immoral (in keeping with the Geneva conventiovs) war, and he probably wouldn't have gotten us into any more senseless wars.

Oh, by the way, would you prefer a dictator ship or monarchy or anarchy over an electory? Or when you say 'Electoral Polotics' are you talking about the electoral college? I'm confused.

Whoa! Trippy! 20 responses in one day! Is that a record, Jake?

Hear that? It's the sound of bring royally fucked and/or nuclear war.

I'm oddly at peace with Bush winning, it's like, 'Hey! I'm fucked for good, I can relax now.'

I worked at a poll, and 10% of the ballots were submitted provisionally. That's around 60 out of 600 (actual numbers are a smattering higher, but it's basically 10%).

Provisional votes are counted in the days after the election. They are compared to the registered voters, verified by the info provided (like addresses, name, drivers license or part of the SSN, etc.) and the ballots run through the counting machines.

Think about this. What if the numbers in Ohio are like this? Suppose that 10% of people are not yet counted.

Jake, you're completely right. We need to wait a while to count the votes.

The days of the "instant result" need to be ended. We need a better understanding about the process, and a greater dedication to accurate numbers.

I guess you didn'y hear, but Kerry conceded the election.

Election are becoming fucking pointless.

A while back in this post, a German dude named Martin responded to your posting, I think he may have misinterperated your posting, as when translated into German and back again, it reads like this:

I am deceived rather around the way, that the media treat this choice. I am not deceived goods perhaps; suck it. But it seems laughably to make any attempt, to "to call" the choice until all choice voice, are counted. "Planning" that is would shit victory. Do not call the choice on the basis on exits votings. Do not call the choice if 67% are counted by the choice voices. You do not call agrees the choice with 99%- good,, are 99% of the choice voice probable certain, to call. But I hate is concerned to be like the press more over first, am than to the right. I am ready to wait a day, or two if that is, what takes it to received the facts just.

I know a bundle of the people, that say currently (11:40 pm on the 2nd Nov), that this choice "in the reason is bush it". And perhaps it will be. But given my sceptical natures, I do not feel that this yet was decided.

But no matter that wins makes, this choice a thing certainly: ten of million of Americans are stupid, stupid fuckers.

maybe it's for the best that Bush won, after all, you shouldn't go changing the horsemen in the middle of the apocalypse.

Eric, While I agree that there is of course bias toward more acceptance from liberals on policies that are questionable when a Democrat is running the show, I think I have to disagree that things would have been as bad. I'm sorry if that's not what you were saying and I'm construing your words or something, but that's just the way it came off. Anyway, record deficits, killing off the enviornment, and bombing innocent people would have I'm sure at least diminished somewhat under Kerry. One of his campaign promises (if it ever came true) would have been to close the loophole for companies like Halliburton in their off shore subsideraries that allowed these well tied companies to profit from such acts like the war in Iraq. That for one seemed to be a good idea. And who knows, maybe Kerry would have hopped in the Kyoto Treaty rather than dig his heals in to the groud determined to screw every enviornment loving hippie square in the ass. That's speculating of course, but he was more willing to talk than Bush. Plus, stem cell research could save lives, another reason Bush's number one policy was sucking at everything.

I'm so disappointed with the results of this election and the fact that the majority of the voters in America seem to have a death wish.

Did you know that while the Enron and Haliburton scandals were open, Bush spent more than ten times as much time and money on the Monica Lewenski affair(which by the way is now closed and dismissed, but bush started to trickle funds into it in 2001) than Halliburton and Enron COMBINED. Also, when he was asked about Ken lay being a big contributer to his campaign, he said 'Ken who?' but he was seen giving WEDGIES to Ken Lay in his office!

Whoa! Dude... We're topping thirty responses, wait, half of them are mine...Woah! Trippy!

I'm an idiot.

I cannot believe that living in New York City duped me into thinking that a simple majority of Americans thought politically the way I do.

I shall never again overestimate the collective intelligence of the American citizenry.

Hate to get back on track with the op of the post, but once you understand the Electoral College system, you can see how it is quite simple to "call" certain states for certain candidates in U.S. elections. It points up a fundamental flaw in the Electoral College's "winner take all" system that exists in all but two of the states in the U.S. As soon as it's clear that a certain percentage of the popular vote is going to one candidate or the other, and you know how many unspoken ballots still exist, you can make the assumption that ALL of that state's electoral votes are going to one candidate or the other.

This all makes the case for switching the U.S. to direct elections. Our voting system is completely screwed, to put it in layman's terms. With the level of technology that exists today, we should be able to collect the popular presidential vote using one unified, verifiable system, and do away entirely with the Electoral College.

However, I don't see that happening, as the Electoral College usually helps the GOP/NeoCon/NWO crowd more than it hinders it, and the GOP are a helluva lot better organizers than the liberals. They wake up early and plan the fate of the world in smoke-filled back rooms while the left wing is still lighting up their first breakfast bongload.

Hey, NewYorkCityBoy, the majority of American DO share your ideology, but nobody really votes anymore, I can see why, with this super polarized, bipartisan slamming machine 'Democracy', almost like a supercollider, whoever gains the most momentum (IE money[Bush sets the world record for most corporate campaign contributions for ANYTHING], smear material[Bush has no previous government record, except his tenure in Texas, which now sits in his daddy's library, sealed from the public, while Kerry has an inconsistant Senate record, which no senator DOESN'T have}, and Zealous followers[two words: Pat Roberts]), wins the Prez/House of Reps./Senate.

Well, "In On the Kill," I'm not sure how to respond to the comment about Kerry fighting a "smarter and less immoral war." How exactly do you do that? Oh, that's right, get other countries involved in the Iraq looting, so it shifts some of the guilt off of you.

To respond to your spurious question about preferring dictatorships over the electorate, they're both minority rule. Enough said.

Alyssa, the fact that you call war crimes committed by Democrats merely questionable is quite revealing. What makes those war crimes more preferable to Republican war crimes? Oh right, Bush didn't get international approval, so it makes Americans more guilty if they don't get other countries to fight for them. So what do you base your assumption that "you're sure that bombings of innocents would diminish under Kerry." Did he say this himself? I think I heard the opposite. Is this because you see Democrats as more benovolent and defenders of the oppressed? Is this because their liberal facade excuses Hiroshima, Vietnam, the Balkans as merely questionable? I see political conditioning is just as effective on the left than it is on the right. The truth is you've been taught to believe and identify with certain candidates because they seem more like you - Democrat and Republican, whatever. But if a candidate pledges to kill more foreigners, it just goes into one ear and out the other. And I've heard the single-issue bit too - Bush would mean the end of gay rights, abortion, etc. I suppose the fact that Kerry affirmed his pro-life credentials and his opposition to gay marriage means little if he appears to be less bigoted and less "redneck" than Bush, right? And you probably believed Clinton when he said that he would protect gay rights...

Bah, whatever, I'm getting too harsh. Anyway, it's up to you all where to go from here. I'm done with this.

I wouldn't beat myself if I was an Democrat supporter - your compatriots have no global monopoly on any inability to appreciate the possible outcome of their votes - witness the Labour Party's ridiculous majority here in the UK, the success of the UK Independence Party or Le Pen's widespread support in France.

Get your orders in for the "Don't blame me - I voted for Kerry" T-shirts and start canvassing for 2008.